warning, DO NOT

[starbuck]

Use this web site!! CARS.gov - Car Allowance Rebate System - Home - Formerly Referred to as “Cash for Clunkers” You can go there to check it out, but dont go any further!! Its a site for the Cash For Clunkers thing the government has going on. And you have to ok a agreement to allow the government to take control of your computer!! This is what it says:


QUOTE
?This application provides access to the DOT CARS system. When logged on to the CARS system, your computer is considered a federal computer system and is the property of the United States Government.

?Any or all uses of this system and all files on this system may be intercepted, monitored, recorded, copied, audited, inspected, and disclosed to authorized CARS, DoT, and law enforcement personnel, as well as authorized officials of other agencies, both domestic and foreign.?

[CoeburnCane]

*sigh*...

This is nowhere on cars.gov. The website that allows car dealerships to link into the govt systems to request stimulus funds related to the CARS program is similar to: Enterprise Services Center. If you look just below the sign-in, it has a link to FAA Privacy and Website Policy.

Even if you go to the CARS.gov - Car Allowance Rebate System - Home - Formerly Referred to as “Cash for Clunkers” site, go to the bottom, and go to the Privacy & Notices link, it takes you to U.S. Department of Transportation / Privacy Policy.

Now you tell me whether or not this is the government trying to track your personal computer at home for visiting cars.gov. Nowhere does the USDOT policy say anything about intercepting personal information, and also--the key to that "bulletin" is that you have to log-in to the CARS system via cars.gov. THERE IS NO PLACE FOR YOU TO LOG IN AT THAT SITE.

People will think up anything if it makes a good story, even if it's completely false but fits their agenda. Sickening.

[starbuck]

well, I should have know better and should have checked out the story myself instead of assuming........a mistake on my part

[CoeburnCane]

well, I should have know better and should have checked out the story myself instead of assuming........a mistake on my part

Not your fault. This has likely been passed as word-of-mouth and it originated with Glenn Beck.
YouTube - Glenn Beck: Cars.gov allows government to takeover your computer
The fallacy is that the privacy "warning box" comes up ONLY when the dealer pulls up the site via esc.gov. Basically, they're serving as a govt. subsidiary when requesting stimulus funds, so the federal government treats the computers at dealerships logging into a federal site as federal govt property. The main aim of that isn't to spy/log/eavesdrop on the customer or even the dealerships, it's to keep track of which dealerships are requesting funds, and whether or not it's legit. It's just the same as if a federally contracted company uses their own computers to work on/log in to a federal software suite, that the contractor's computers are considered federal property just like a computer in the heart of the Pentagon.

It's just another tactic to scare people out of using a program that seems to be working pretty well so far. Kimberly Gilfoyle, while hot, is just as much to blame as Beck is for chirping right in with him on this.

[TheBeast]

"Any or all uses of this system and all files on this system may be intercepted, monitored, recorded, copied, audited, inspected, and disclosed to authorized CARS, DOT, and law enforcement personnel as well as all authorized officials of other agencies, both domestic and foreign. By using this system, the user consents to such interception, monitoring, recording, copying, auditing, inspecting and disclosure at the discretion of CARS or the DOT personnel."


There is the original disclaimer before it was taken down and reworded.

it's to keep track of which dealerships are requesting funds, and whether or not it's legit

Why would they have to have access to the whole system and why would any agency besides the CARS program need access to anything at all????

It's just another tactic to scare people out of using a program that seems to be working pretty well so far.

Did you miss the part where they weren't ready to for the program to start at all and completely f'd up the whole thing and dealers are having to call customers and tell them their deal wasn't taken to bring back the new car. And that the program was to be shut down 5 days after it started because they said they didn't have enough money.

This was 103 page bill to give incentives for trading in old cars and y'all think they are gonna be able to do a 1000+ page helathcare bill that none of them seem to care to even read? And wasn't this the same bunch that was raising hell because noone read the Patriot Act?

[R13]

I was waiting for that argument, it's been passed around lately on the right-wing sites. They weren't ready for the massive amount that this brought in, not "not ready altogether". It's been so successful, that the program just ran out of money with it(it only had a billion for the entire program)...thus the reason why they're asking for 2 billion more to extend it. I know it's hard to admit that it worked.

[1inStripes]

Works is a relative term. At the moment it is providing a boost to the auto business in the short term. It also limits the longer term fortunates, do to a lack of used car sales, which is one of the biggest money makers for the auto industry as a whole. Will it be worth the added debt longer term, that is yet to be seen.

[MikeJones]

It's gonna be tough to buy used car parts. Alot got destroyed with the high scrap prices. Now with this if you couldn't afford to get a newer car good look finding parts to keep your old one running. Also I wonder how many of these dealerships instead of recycling the car actually resell em.

[imported_elp6n]

It's already on Snopes:
snopes.com: Cash for Clunkers

[imported_elp6n]

It's gonna be tough to buy used car parts. Alot got destroyed with the high scrap prices. Now with this if you couldn't afford to get a newer car good look finding parts to keep your old one running. Also I wonder how many of these dealerships instead of recycling the car actually resell em.

Actually it should get easier.
All the CARS trade ins are required by law to be scrapped (although some will be shredded).

Can't register a car with a VIN to a destroyed car, and it would be hard to forge resells on a grand scale without getting caught pretty quick.